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Discussion about Balanset-1 / balance mainspindles
« on: July 15, 2018, 05:49:35 PM »
Dear sir, madam,
For our company I’m looking for a device thet can balance mainspindles in machining centers.
The spindle will not be taken out of the machine for balancing,
On the internet I found Vibromera. My question, will your balcom-1 do this job?
What is the level of balancing I can expect in MM/S?
Do you have references who also balance main spindles?
Please make a quotation with your very best price of a Balcom-1,
2 planes
5 meter cables on the accelerometers and laser sensor
delivery to my adres

Mr. Shelkovenko,

I'm interested in buying balance-1. I'm wondering if this device is strong
enough for field balancing the rotors of mulchers in two planes.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards

Discussion about Balanset-1 / centrifugal impellers
« on: July 15, 2018, 04:08:59 PM »
Dear Mr.,

I've seen the field balancing equipment on your webpage.

We start manufacturing centrifugal impellers for small single inlet
centrifugal fans.
(see attached picture)
The impeller outside diameter is from 300 up to 450 mm and width 140 up to
220. Weight 1,5 to 5,0 kg.

In case of using your Balanset-1 device, could you please make a
schematics with:
- where to place the vibration sensors;
- where to place the reflector mark;
- where on the rotor to add test weight (we want to add mass, not

Looking forward for your reply,

Discussion about Balanset-1 / balancing machine for Pelton runner
« on: July 15, 2018, 03:29:45 PM »

We need balancing machine for Pelton runner. All necessary information’s are enclosed in the drawing.

Those are the cases of smallest and biggest runners that we need to balance.

Please, can you confirm that we can use your equipment for balancing such parts and send us the quotation?

Best regards.

Discussion about Balanset-1 / 50 ton rotor balancing
« on: July 08, 2018, 08:38:44 PM »
We are a power generation company having big generators of 120mega watts. We have some vibration in them. We need a test set to balance their rotors.

I have seen your add on ebay. Can you please share that

How much big (length/diameter/weight) rotor can be balanced with this device?
What is the cables length of vibration sensors?
What is your final price of this equipment?
If we do not buy magnetic stand for speed pick up as we have it and also not buy weight scale then what will be the price?

Please again note that our generators rotors are very big. Rotor weight is 50ton, length is 6 meters and diameters is 02 meters.

Need your feed back to proceed.

Discussion about Balanset-1 / 2 Plane Dynamic Balancing
« on: July 08, 2018, 07:49:41 PM »
Dear Sir
We are looking for 2 Plane Dynamic Balancing.
Kindly send us the data sheet and instruction manual for review

Discussion about Balanset-1 / order 2 x vibration sensors
« on: July 08, 2018, 07:39:38 PM »
> Hi there we recently purchased a Balanset-1 from you . We need to
> order 2 x vibration sensors for this as we damaged one. Ordering 2 so
> we have a spare here as well
> Can you please work us out a cost for 2 and postage to the address
> below.

Hi Andrew, just wondering if you have a postal tracking number for the
sensors that you sent please.

Discussion about Balanset-1 / USB drive is corrupt
« on: July 08, 2018, 07:34:45 PM »
Hello, I received my set, thank you. Unfortunately the USB drive is corrupt and I am unable to access the software.
I had my IT Department look at the drive. They tell me that it is unreadable/corrupt.

Can you please provide a copy of the software, preferably a download link so we can start using this please.. Need this kind of urgently. So possibly a dropbox or google drive please ??

kind regards

Please inform us if the Balanset-1 balancing set is appropriate for the balancing of an assembled turbocharger core.

Discussion about Balanset-1 / Dynamic balancing procedure
« on: July 08, 2018, 04:16:26 PM »
Balanset-1 is two-channels balancing system for dynamic balancing of rigid rotors.
Balanset-1 can balance in 1 or 2 balancing planes. It includes two vibration sensors, which will enable you to measure vibration in 2 planes at the same time by one machine run.
We will demonstrate the balancing procedure at our balancing training stand. It consists of electric motor with two disc on the shaft. Electric motor placed on the spring-supported platform. Natural resonant frequency of this system is much lower than rotation frequency of electric motor(3000 rpm - 50 Hz). So, this stand is "after
resonance" type.
There are two vibration sensors which enable you to measure vibration in two planes Balanset-1 balancer includes two vibration sensors(accelerometers), laser phase sensor(digital tachometer), 2-channel USB interface unit with preamplifier, integrators and ADC acquired module, notebook(or other PC) and Windows based balancing software.
Balancing procedure by itself is very simple. It uses 3-run method. In it's first run, (named Run#0 in the program) Balkom will measure the initial vibration of the machine. Then we add the test weight on the first plane of correction and repeat the vibration measurement( Run#1 ). Then we remove the test weight from the 1st
plane, add it to the 2nd plane and repeat the vibration measurement( Run#2 ).
Then software will calculate the mass and it will show us the place(angle) where we have to mount correction weights to reduce the unbalance and vibration.
Theoretically, vibration must be reduced to zero level, but our rotor machine is not ideal and our measurement already has some errors. So, in many cases we need to repeat the balancing procedure. But we don't need to use trial weights again. Once  influence coefficients (balancing coefficients) has been saved in the PC memory,
software will use it for next calculations.
Let's take a look at how it really works.
First step is to install sensors at the point of measurement in the platform. The sensors have magnetic base, so we just place it on the steel part of the platform.
Also you can remove magnetic base and mount sensors using screw M4. Vibration sensors placed on the opposite edges of the platform named correction place 1 and correction place 2.
(Detailed theory of dynamic balancing you can see here.)
Then we have to put a reflective mark on the rotor. Phase sensor- tachometer will use this reflective mark to measure phase of vibration and determine the angular position where we have to place correction weights later.
Then run the program.
In the main window you can select balancing type (static 1 -plane of correction or dynamic 2-planes of correction), vibrometer mode, balancing mode, view charts, and view archives when previous measuring data saved.
Before balancing, it is always recommended to check rotor machine technical condition. For this we can use vibrometer mode.
In this mode we can repeatedly measure and analyse vibration of the rotor machine.
Start electric motor.
Click on F9 button - "Run"
In this window shown vibration value and phase. Here Vs is RMS of vibration in the frequency wide range.
V0 is amplitude of vibration on rotation frequency.
Only V0 will tell us about unbalance value!

If V0 is close to zero value - it means that unbalance is close to zero too.
In the chart shown below we can see diagrams of the vibration wave form and spectrum of vibration function.

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. Vibration wave form and spectrum charts"

There are 2 harmonic peak - about 5 mm\s on the 50 Hz and about 2 mm\sec on the 100 Hz.
Peak on the 50 Hz characterize unbalance, but peak on the 100 Hz caused by the other reasons.
Here we see V0 is close to Vs, so we can conclude that main reason of the vibration is unbalance.
Now let's try to balance our rotor.

Click F7 - Balancing in the main window.
Input the required data in the window appeared on the screen.

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. 2-plane balancing settings window

1. Set New rotor if you balance rotor first time or Select rotor if you are going
to balance a rotor which you have balanced earlier.
2. Weight trial mass. We use an electronic weighing scale to measure mass.
3. If you need to split weight – select Blades, else select Polar.
4. Set radius of trial mass mounting place.
Now we can begin to balance.
Run#0 measure initial vibration
Start electric motor. Wait for a while until the rotation speed value comes stable.
Then press F9 button – Run
Vo1 and Vo2 – vibration value on 1x rotation frequency.

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. 2-plane balancing. Run#0 without trial weights

Add test weight on the first plane of correction and repeat vibration measurement.

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. 2-plane balancing. Run#1 with trial weight in plane 1

Remove test weight from the 1st plane, add it to the 2nd plane and repeat vibration

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. 2-plane balancing. Run#2 with trial weight in plane 2

This software will show you the mass and the place of the correcting weights.
Remove test weight from the 2nd plane and add correction mass M1 and M2 on the
angles f1 and f2 , as shown on the screen shot.
Be sure that you place masses correctly – by the direction of rotation
from trial weight place.

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. Correction weights moounting

Then we should check result of our balancing.
Run machine again (RunC)

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. Trim balancing.
We can see that vibration caused by the unbalance reasons (on 50 Hz frequency) is
reduced to more than 10 times.
We can make a next trim step and add new correcting weight M1=0.049 g.
M2=0,007 g is too small, so we don't need to add it. (But you may add this weight
to obtain more precise balancing)

Then check result again

"Dynamic balancer Balaset-1. Trim balancing? step 2

Vibration in the 1st correction plane is reduced to more than 200 times and in 2nd
plane - more than 40 times.

Dear Mr.
I am very interested in your balancyng system
I will integrate this system in a old balancyng machine, but please let me know if you can to help me with some requirements

1.- Do yo have some calibration procedure to calibrate sensor with Know mass?
2.- This software can be adapted with other sensors, having data sheet of course
3.- Can you deliver y me a sourse code program in order to modificate some characteristic like colors, font types, windows wide and position aspect.
4.- I will appreciate so much if you can to hep me with this..
thanks and regards,
5.- Can this software to show in polar graphics ?

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